The recent video of Tony Prime where he crashed the Memorial made me think how the Memorial has changed in recent years ,the layout of the talk ,the lack of Jesus and his sufferings. How do you think the Memorial has changed in recent years ?
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Apostate crashes Memorial (update)
by raymond frantz inthe recent video of tony prime where he crashed the memorial made me think how the memorial has changed in recent years ,the layout of the talk ,the lack of jesus and his sufferings.
how do you think the memorial has changed in recent years ?.
video of apostate crashing the memorial.
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What is Truth ? Postmodernism and Greek mythology's infuence on the concept of truth
by raymond frantz in.
need help with this article .
www.jwdoctrine.com.
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Great Crowd ,History of a Doctrine (1879-1935)
by raymond frantz infinished my latest post great crowd,history of a doctrine .
i wonder if you can have a look and let me know what you think .there are a couple of things i need help with and woder if any of you know :.
what is the first ever quotation about the "great crowd" in the watchtower how many times is the great crowd seen in heaven in the book of revelation hope you can help www.jwdoctrine.com.
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raymond frantz
Finished my latest post Great Crowd,History of a Doctrine . I wonder if you can have a look and let me know what you think .There are a couple of things I need help with and woder if any of you know :
- What is the first ever quotation about the "great crowd" in the Watchtower
- How many times is the great crowd seen in heaven in the book of Revelation
- Hope you can help
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Great Crowd : Need ideas and best articles
by raymond frantz inhi guys ,i need ideas and articles about the great crowd .i will be writing a series of articles on this subject and i wonder if you can help.. what do you think are the best topics in relation to the great crowd?
one i can think of the top of my head is " is the great crowd in heaven?".
also do you have any previous threads on this site about the great crowd?
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thanks bobcat ,I'll definetely read these links later
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Great Crowd : Need ideas and best articles
by raymond frantz inhi guys ,i need ideas and articles about the great crowd .i will be writing a series of articles on this subject and i wonder if you can help.. what do you think are the best topics in relation to the great crowd?
one i can think of the top of my head is " is the great crowd in heaven?".
also do you have any previous threads on this site about the great crowd?
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raymond frantz
Hi guys ,I need ideas and articles about the great crowd .I will be writing a series of articles on this subject and I wonder if you can help.
What do you think are the best topics in relation to the great crowd? One I can think of the top of my head is " Is the Great Crowd in Heaven?"
Also do you have any previous threads on this site about the great crowd?
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The Generation that will not GO away
by raymond frantz inhi guys looking for all watchtower quotations for the "overlapping generation" doctrine from it's very inception .could you please help ?.
www.jwdoctrine.com.
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that's what I thought Ding ,they introduced it in 2008 and they made it official in 2010 .The 1952 reference is very interesting .I t would seem that they had thought all the possible scenarios 50 years ago and they just use it only recently as a way out from the unattainable doctrine .
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The Generation that will not GO away
by raymond frantz inhi guys looking for all watchtower quotations for the "overlapping generation" doctrine from it's very inception .could you please help ?.
www.jwdoctrine.com.
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thanks A proclaimer ,what do you think of this one, as early as 2008 ,that seems as the first time the indroduced the concept,let me know
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008125?q=overlap&p=par
- The Watchtower (2008)
- w08 2/15 pp. 21-25
- Christ’s Presence—What Does It Mean to You?
Can We Calculate the Length of “This Generation”?
The word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event. For example, Exodus 1:6 tells us: “Eventually Joseph died, and also all his brothers and all that generation.” Joseph and his brothers varied in age, but they shared a common experience during the same time period. Included in “thatgeneration” were some of Joseph’s brothers who were born before him. Some of these outlived Joseph. (Gen. 50:24) Others of “that generation,” such as Benjamin, were born after Joseph was born and may have lived on after he died.
So when the term “generation” is used with reference to people living at a particular time, the exact length of that time cannot be stated except that it does have an end and would not be excessively long. Therefore, by using the term “this generation,” as recorded atMatthew 24:34, Jesus did not give his disciples a formula to enable them to determine when “the last days” would end. Rather, Jesus went on to emphasize that they would not know “that day and hour.”—2 Tim. 3:1; Matt. 24:36.
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The Generation that will not GO away
by raymond frantz inhi guys looking for all watchtower quotations for the "overlapping generation" doctrine from it's very inception .could you please help ?.
www.jwdoctrine.com.
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raymond frantz
Hi guys looking for all watchtower quotations for the "overlapping generation" doctrine from it's very inception .Could you please help ?
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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'
by EndofMysteries inin the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".
par 9 and 10 .
9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.
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Read full article here :www.jwdoctrine.com
One of the greatest activists of the last century ,Mahatma Gandhi described best the stages of a winning strategy of nonviolent activism against oppressive regimes :”First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
It would seem that the Watchtower Society is currently experiencing the effects of such nonviolent activism in the form of “apostate” websites such as this one that they can’t control .Instead of engaging in a dialogue with their alienated base they continue their continuous “witch hunting” with their latest Study article July 15th, 2014 “Jehovah Knows Those Who Belong to Him”.
Starting from paragraph 4 ,they set the tone for the rest of the article describing as “hypocritical worshipers” all those who disobey their self-imposed authority .(Please substitute the name “Jehovah” with “Governing Body” )
At first glance ,this quotation makes no sense .Who were these apostates in the first century ? and how were they inflicting spiritual harm to others ? The answer becomes obvious when you actually read these verses from the Bible and see what part of these verses they conveniently left out.Let’s read from the New World Translation:
There is no use of the word apostates here .In fact the word “ἀποστασίαν=apostasy” appears only twice in the Bible (Acts 21:21,2 Thess. 2:3) .First the Pharisees used it to describe Paul and later is used in the Bible to describe a future event relating with the deviation that would occur after the death of the apostles within the Christian congregation.The word was never used to describe active members of the first century congregation .
How about the actual teaching “these ones” were using to subvert the faith of some ? They were saying that the resurrection had already taken place .The literal resurrection of Jesus Christ is the very foundation of the Christian faith .Paul explains :” Now if it is being preached that Christ has been raised from the dead,how is it that some among you say there is no resurrection of the dead? If, indeed, there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ has not been raised up. But if Christ has not been raised up, our preaching is certainly in vain, and your faith is also in vain.”(1 Corinthians 15:12-14) Apparently some in the first Christian congregation were saying that the resurrection had already taken place in a metaphorical way .
There is nothing in these verses to indicate that Paul was referring to apostates that questioned his apostolic appointment. Never.Never the less the Watchtower feels justified to alter the meaning of the text to fit its own agenda.
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ALL JW's to be at the meeting this week...
by Newly Enlightened in.
we asked this person if it could be aqbout the terminology change and they said that was already read last week...... we remember the last time they did this.
got everyone all excited thinking the big "a" was coming and all it was about, was the literature would now be donated instead of charging for it.. .
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